Re: [Dragora-users] reduce cost?

[Matías Fonzo]

El 2024-01-08 12:08, Jing Luo escribió:
> On 2024-01-08 21:19, Matías Fonzo wrote:
> > El 2024-01-08 00:51, Jing Luo via Dragora-users escribió:
> > > [...]
> > >
> > > Also, the paypal no-login donation doesn't work for me: I have credit 
> > > cards in two countries (China and Japan), when I choose either of 
> > > them, paypal says "Donations to this recipient aren't supported in 
> > > this country"
> >
> > I ask, the PayPal no-login option from where?.  From what I understand 
> > you need to be logged into paypal to operate it, am I wrong?.  I 
> > wonder if this is a problem with PayPal or an outdated code from the 
> > Dragora donation section.
>
> After I click on the donate button, paypal gives me two options: login, 
> or "use credit/debit card". If I choose "use credit/debit card", and 
> select country China or Japan, it will return error, but selecting 
> "United States" or "Argentina" seems OK. I guess some countries are 
> blocked from donation. Anyway, I have a US paypal account and I used my 
> credit card, it worked.

I didn't know.  In that case, other channels will probably have to be 
used.

BTW, thank you for making a donation! :-)

> > > On the other hand, I think I may be able to help reduce the cost. Is 
> > > dragora.org costing much money? I can host it "pro gratis". I host 
> > > repo.jing.rocks the mirror site (and other sites) using my home 
> > > servers (in Japan), if you want, I can set up a few VMs and give you 
> > > ssh access. I have many GBs of memory and TBs of storage available. 
> > > If dragora's DNS server costs money, I can also set up name servers.
> >
> > This sounds very good!
> >
> > The renovation of the site is set for 2023-03-01.  I just checked and 
> > the value in Argentinian pesos will be 40545.55(ARS), considering the 
> > conversion to the CURRENT dollar value, it would come out:
> >
> >     50 USD (rounded).
> >
> > 1 ARS = 0,00123113 USD
> > 1 USD = 812,259 ARS
> >
> > With inflation in the country, it is expensive for us.
>
> I actually have no idea how much 40 mil pesos means to you, but I 
> traveled to Buenos Aires in 2019, it was 1 USD =~ 30 ARS.

I see. I took those values from a converter, sometimes it can get 
confusing as there are several types of dollars here, so with the 
official one it would be (currently):

1 USD = 793 ARS.

> > My "only condition" would be that if you set up a server, I would not 
> > want to maintain a web server (manually) because of the time it might 
> > take to set it up and keep it up to date.  (I don't know how much time 
> > I would have to do this.)
> >
> > If you already have a scheme set up, then I think there will be no 
> > problem uploading the website there.  :-)
>
> No problem! I can manage web servers for you. Should we move the 
> conversation off the mailing list?

Sure.

> > [...]
> > I also forgot to mention that I use email for this address, if this is 
> > not possible I would have no problem changing the address to my 
> > secondary email address hosted on riseup.net.
>
> No problem, besides web servers, I also self host my mail servers. This 
> can be set up very easily I think. But I see on Jan 4, my mail server 
> retried many times to deliver email to your address, I wonder if I can 
> directly reach you outside the mailing list.