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Re: A new user perspective about "Changes for emacs 28"

From: Ergus
Subject: Re: A new user perspective about "Changes for emacs 28"
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2020 13:40:13 +0200

One thing at the time. Having an alternative to traditional undo that
could be enabled with one of the profiles we were discussing before or
throw an option in the menubar is (in my opinion) a good first step.

If we decide in the future to improve that with visualization or any
other fancy option it is orthogonal to this change as that can be
customized with a simple option (maybe (setq undo-redo-visualize t) ;p)

On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 01:29:42PM +0200, Arthur Miller wrote:
Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru> writes:

As you can see from the recent messages, a lot of users prefer undo-tree or even
undo-only+undo-redo rather than the default undo.
Yes, but as I understand the situtaion a lot of users, usually those
that are new to Emacs does not get at the start how Emacs undo works,
and they resort to something simpler they are familiar with.

That is why I suggested to start talking about non-destructive text
editing to emphasize more on how undo feature in Emacs works. I see no
problems with having to different undo-mechanisms either, the original
one, and one simpler. Simpler could work as people are used from other
applications and could be default, and could be disabled by setting some
nil value for some variable so experienced user can use original undo.

Undo tree as a visualisation is very cool feature, and could be one of
unique Emacs features, if it could visualise any undo/redo history. I
don't use undo-tree myself, but I think that graphical representation of
undo history is a cool even if mostly gimmicky.

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