Re: [Gnu-arch-users] [OT] facism gaining ground in US

[nadim]

Hi,

Well I'm a bit desapointed! IMVHO, what does this have to do with  "facism 
gaining ground in US"?

Don't missunderstand me, I think the subject is interresting and I am 
thankful to get that information but as I once pointed out (to Tim if I am 
right) talking about what the other do, doesn't change nothing in what you 
do or don't.

To throw some gas on the flammes I'd say:

- moving an election date because of an imminent ("real") danger has IMO 
nothing to do with fascism. It was just the day's subject and everybody 
jumped on it instead for looking at the long going fascistic activities.

- IMO the US has been a fascistic state for half a century! I don't like 
Bush but I stopped being a dreammer as soon as as became politicaly" 
(more) mature and that was long before bush

- I'm afraid that there are few US citizens ready for a discussion with 
,say, europeans because they (most often and there are great exception) 
are on the defensive all the time (I wonder why).

- Want to compare with europeans, let's start comparing bombs amounts and 
usage, attentats, terrorist activities, support for fascistic states, 
military support, falsness, comitment to ideas that are only because of 
the financial aspect (we can skip Irak (you  can't even fool yourselves 
anymore on that one)), etc ... As a side point, do you know that many 
europeans coutry teach about the US history and political system 
(including France). While we are on that point let's compare the 
educational system.

Two very important points:

(sorry I don't have the source) , 70% of the europeans think that the most 
dangerous man in the world is Bush (I am and that's because I think he is 
a fascist).

The states doesn't rate very well when it comes to the respect europeans 
(those I know and talk with) gives them. Many think you have what you 
deserve but most make the diffrence between the US policies and the people 
making the US. You (the people) think you stand for something good and 
have values, most (of us) belive you but it's getting harder. Not because 
the people are doing things that are wrong but because they support the 
governement that do things that are wrong and when you don't support them, 
they get done anyway.

Now this is my opinion and I believe it's share by many but those who don't 
agree with me are very welcome to counter.

Hope is in the discussion (and evolution thereof), Nadim.


On Friday 16 July 2004 01:31, Matthew Dempsky wrote:
> Harald Meland <address@hidden> writes:
> > The EU contries' total ODA was 29949 US$m -- which was ~125% more than
> > the US total (13290 US$m).  The total GNI of the EU countries was ~16%
> > lower (~8557 US$b) than that of the US (~10223 US$b).
>
> When calculating the EU total ODA, did they deduct contributions, if
> any, made from one EU country to another?
>
>
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