Re: [Gnu-arch-users] [OT] facism gaining ground in US

[Stephen J. Turnbull]

>>>>> "Frank" == Frank T Pohlmann <address@hidden> writes:

    nadim> See, the problem is not in what you wisper but what you make
    nadim> the people feel and see.

    Frank> My thoughts, exactly.

Why are you saying this to the guy that Tom has dissed for caring too
much about media distortion?  Pierce already knows that.  Why do I get
the feeling that you are paying no attention to anything that you
couldn't have written yourselves?

And what do you propose as a solution?  Censorship, so that the media
only disseminates exactly what Bush wants them to?  Or are you
advocating that Bush should say nothing, rather than explain why he
made the decision he did, because he knows the media will present it
in simplistic, demonizing terms?

C'mon, guys, be part of the solution, not part of the problem.  We
know what you think is the problem, and it would be really nice if you
took the recording off "infinite loop".  What do you suggest we do
about it, besides becoming copies of you?

    Frank> To us, US foreign policy sounds like a very, very bad
    Frank> dream.

Cool.  The results are unquestionably nightmarish, though it looks to
me that compared to the periods 1979-1990 and 1990-2002, it's mostly
that a different set of people are having nightmares.[1]  Others are
having more pleasant dreams.  But sure, the U.S. is involved here, so
improvements in U.S. policy would definitely make things better.

Would you do me a favor and explain

1.  What is U.S. foreign policy?

2.  What do you propose as an alternative?

3.  What is the "foreign" policy of the EU?

4.  What are the foreign policies of the three big member states
    (France, Germany, Britain)?

5.  How would 3 & 4 have to change in response to 2?

6.  What are the benefits and costs you expect from these changes?

This is just a test.  If this were a real policy-planning session, you
would be required to be complete and if you missed anything important
to any major interest group, you would be disqualified from futher
participation.  ;-)


Footnotes: 
[1]  Not to mention that there have been plenty of nightmares that the
U.S. had nothing to do with, and Europe did nothing about them, either.

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