Re: Update CoC adapted from upstream 2.1 (instead of 1.4)

[Philip McGrath]

On 2/25/22 11:59, Taylan Kammer wrote:> Transwomen have many challenges 
they have to face, and some of them may be
> similar or equivalent to some challenges women have to face, but to claim

I'm concerned that framing "transwomen" and "women" as though they were 
two contrasting groups is itself inconsistent with the current CoC's 
standard of "using welcoming and inclusive language".

While I think the best reading of "Le Deuxième Sexe" affirms that trans 
women are women, I agree with those who have already said that this list 
is not a suitable forum for debating the finer points of feminist theory.

It seems to me that one of the reasons to have a CoC is to communicate 
that the identities and experiences of people who face discrimination 
are not up for debate. Yet here it seems they are, in fact, being called 
into question, even though people have already expressed discomfort and 
asked for it to stop or move off-list.

I've bcc'ed guix-maintainers@gnu.org, since someone requested that earlier.

-Philip

P.S.: Personally, I'm fine with either the current CoC text or with 
Simon's proposed update to bring it into alignment with upstream, if 
that has consensus.