Re: ANN: GNUtooth, Bluetooth 'support' for GNUstep

[thisguyisi]

Fabien VALLON wrote:

> Alex Perez (aperez@student.santarosa.edu) a écrit:
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> > > Dirk Theisen (d.theisen@gmx.net) a écrit:
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> > > > Hi!
> > > >
> > > >        
> > > >
> > > > > the Preferences.app plugin for management of Bluetooth devices
> > > > > should be the Configure.app plugin for management of Bluetooth
> > > > >          
> > > > devices.
> > > >        
> > > >
> > > > > Maybye it is time to start Configure.app :)
> > > > >          
> > *groan* Do we have to???
> >    
> >
> > > > I never liked Configure.app and I think Apple is on the right track
> > > > with just having Preferences.app where some panes need the admin
> > > > password to apply changes. Maybe they could be grouped by user and
> > > > computer settings? Maybe using a TabView?
> > > >        
> > > I don't think so.
> > > This is not the Unix Design.
> > >      
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> > Are you designing for "Unix users" (whatever that is...) 
> >    
> No for Unix system.
> In Unix root have special acess.
> I don't want to lie to users
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> > or unix GEEKS,
> >    
> where is the geeky thing here ?
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> > who are expected to memorize the location of every preference/configure
> > panel?
> >    
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> I preferes memorize
> Configure == hardware
> Preferences == user
> than see that
> http://www.gnuskole.dk/fundanemt/site_graphics/fundaWeb/kontrolcenter-da.png
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> > > On MacOSX you don't have a lot of device and a lot of MacoS classic
> > > users :)
> > >      
> > You also have one place to go for stuff. There's a reason for that, and I
> > think it's fairly apparent if you take a commen-sense look at why it's
> > done that way.
> >    
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> MacOS Classic does not have special account like root
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> > > On Unix like Linux it is quite different.
> > >      
> > Needless complication just for the sake of it? You're a "splitter", it seems.
> >    
> >
> > > One app should do the right thing.
> > > Preferences == users with no special access
> > > Configure   == hardware with special access for special configuration
> > > HostManager == Network with special acces for special configuration
> > >
> > > All in an App is confusing (and lies) (it does not reflect what *nix is)
> > >      
> > Once again, is "reflecting what UNIX is?" the ONLY thing GNUstep is about?
> >    
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> no 
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> > I know it's *a* factor, but is it *the only* factor?
> >    
> yes you understood, it is a factor 
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> > > , bloating and harder to use + some security stuff.
> > >      
> > Can you elaborate here? Are you referring to the lock/unlock concept apple
> > introduced in some OS X preferences panels?
> >    
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> create a Mockup with a lot of device and preferences in a MOSX style and you'll 
> see
> you'll loose consistency.
>
> Fabien
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Hello all,

What about this...

Currently, Preferences.app has a window with a scroller for different 
"Preference forms" at the top, in a horizontal orientation. GNUMail.app 
has a scroller for different preferences in it's configurator set in a 
vertical orientation on the left hand side. Why not extend Preferences.app?

By adding a vertically oriented scroller on the left, you could switch 
between "User Preferences", "Hardware Configuration", and "Special 
Configurators" to access the necessary items in a sane and seperated 
fashion, but all from a centralized location.

By "Special Configurators" I mean let different applications, such as 
the suggested "ApacheManager" add a tile to the vertically oriented 
scroller to add it's specialized configuration options, The 
"specialized" tiles in the vertically oriented scroller could be either 
grayed to indicate inaccessability, or hidden, if one must have root 
access to utilize them.

Just some food for thought, hopefully it won't give you indigestion.
Best Regards,
-thisguyisi