Re: [Gomp-discuss] Start of an OpenMP Implementation Spec

[Scott Robert Ladd]

Biagio Lucini wrote:
> 	many thanks for your letter and welcome among us. I think we *all* are 
> interested in moving gomp forward. The problem is that the project has big 
> pushes when new and enthusiast members like you join it, but they won't last 
> a forthnight. What we really need is someone who says "look: I'm here, ready 
> to hack something" or better "I did this and that: what do you think"? 
> Discussing theoretical proposals so far has brought us nowhere. 

Perhaps "new and enthusiastic members" feel ignored and unappreciated.

Several months back, I posted a set of code examples, showing how basic 
OpenMP constructs could be realized using several parallelization 
models. I asked for comments and suggestions; the result was resounding 
silence from this group.

When GOMP began, I delivered an initial boilerplate for the support 
library, yet I've received very little feedback from this community.

I could finish much of the support library in a few short weeks -- but 
would that really move the project forward? Or would the code languish?

One initial "decision" was to implement for Linux, and then port later 
to other architectures. I disagree; in keeping with the principles of 
GNU and GCC, OpenMP should be based on an abstract model with 
platform-specific implementations. Opinions?

Lacking feedback on the concrete proposals I have made, I can only conclude:

1) No one here is really interested in realizing GOMP

2) My proposals are so awful that they are beyond comment

I'd be more than happy to lead, follow, or get out of the way, if I felt 
that any of those paths would move GOMP along. I've tried providing code 
and asking for feedback, without receiving much help; I've tried waiting 
for others to move ahead, and they have not.

I do not have all the knowledge required to implement OpenMP, nor do I 
have the financial resources to devote myself to OpenMP development.

Collaborative design is an iterative process; someone throws out an 
idea, others make suggestions, and a design evolves for practical 
implementation.

If you expect a fully-realized OpenMP design and implementation, I'm 
afraid that isn't going to happen without funding and some group effort. 
  If you're waiting for someone to "hack something" in their spare 
time, you may wait a long time.

..Scott

--
Scott Robert Ladd
Coyote Gulch Productions (http://www.coyotegulch.com)
Software Invention for High-Performance Computing