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Re: Old messages missing on the present newsgroup


From: Andrzej Adam Filip
Subject: Re: Old messages missing on the present newsgroup
Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2006 17:45:14 +0200

David Z Maze <dmaze@mit.edu> writes:

> Rodolfo Medina <rodolfo.medina@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Some old messages sent to the present newsgroup
>> are not accessible, it seems, if I search for them via
>> nntp server, whereas they're seen through web interface
>> and also in the archives of the info-gnus-english@gnu.org mailing list.
>> How come?
>
> Because even just "current" news is a huge disk space and bandwidth
> consumer, so it's standard practice for news servers to only keep
> around a small amount of recent history (maybe the past month) and
> expire articles beyond that.  If you have infinite disk space and
> bandwidth than it's reasonable to archive all of Usenet (hi, Google
> Groups); if you're only archiving a specific group than the
> requirements become much more reasonable.
>
> I know you can use Gnus to preserve specific articles, and you can
> probably combine an nntp group and a Web archive for historical
> purposes, but I don't know details on either off hand.
>
>> Maybe there are some other nntp servers to read the present newsgroup,
>> besides news.gmane.org and news.gnus.org?
>
> gnu.emacs.gnus is "a normal Usenet group" (in a way that gmane groups
> generally aren't) and so any Usenet server that carries the gnu.*
> hierarchy would have it.  (I'm reading on news.mit.edu, but you
> generally need to be inside MIT's network to use it.)

Take a look at the group archive:
http://groups.google.com/group/gnu.emacs.gnus/msg/45694c47fa0b026a
subject: backfill of usenet postings

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