Re: [Gnu-arch-users] [OT] facism gaining ground in US

[Robert Anderson]

--- Original Message ---
From: nadim <address@hidden>
To: address@hidden
Subject: Re: [Gnu-arch-users] [OT] facism gaining ground in US

>Hi, 
>
>On Tuesday 27 July 2004 12:00 am, Robert Anderson wrote:
>> And you left out the part where we're all going around waving
>> flags and not asking the right questions.
>I believe there is much flag waving and not enough questions
asked. Period. 
>I'm sorry but there are too many re-writting going on. You wrote
: 'us 
>"idiots"' and that's not what I wrote at all.
>
>> As long as we're quoting, here's what you said:
>>
>> "With all the money that guy has been putting in his pocket"
>
>And I challenge you to find the above sentence in any mail I
wrote. Would you 
>like me to send you a link to the archive?

Nadim?

Here's some extra context to jog your memory.  The exact quote,
to the letter, is surrounded by double-stars, like this **your
quote**.

--begin quote--

> Pierce's Obligatory Foreign Affairs plug
>
> They all agree on a couple of points:
>
> Bush has been a PR disaster for the US, though they expect Kerry to
> do the same things, just with a spoonful of sugar. Reading their
> opinions
That's your analysis.

One thing struck me, Mr Bild talked about the US as a
"democratic-force". I
have some problems with putting both words together but what I
really wonder
is where has Mr Bild been the last 50 years?

> I kind of realized that Bush has made a practice of talking
tough as a
> strategy to reassure the populace in the wake of 9/11.
Give us a break, Bush has taken the practice to scare the shit
out of you and
us and steal your money will you're buisy salvaging the little
rights he
leaves you. You have your government taking your for idiots and
you all go
round waving little flags stupidly instead for asking it the
right questions.
Want an example? So rRumsfeld say that he leaving his post is a
possibility.
What happends then, nada, nothing, zero, nil. **With all the
money that guy has
been putting in his pocket**, I'm sure he'd say whatever you want
to hear.

IMHO, Bush re-election wouldn't surprise me the least and if
Kerry is elected,
I don't think it would change a damn thing!

Cheers and happy votes, Nadim.

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The date on this email is:

 Jul 26 2004 1:37p

I won't proffer any explanation for your behavior.  But I've lost
any expectation of a reasonable discussion with someone who flat
out denies writing something they had just written a couple hours
earlier.

I'll just get to the obvious conclusion:  you're making
assertions about things for which you have no evidence.  I would
encourage you to ask yourself how you came to believe these
things.  I would ask you to think about who told you should
believe them, or who led you to believe them, and maybe you
should ask yourself what the motivation of those influences were,
that you were deceived into believing them?  Then it is possible
(not likely, granted) you may start applying a mirror to some of
your own logic about who believes what, and why, and who is
asking the right questions of whom.

I'd also point out the irony in the remarkable symmetry between
your mindset and some in the Bush adminstration, who behaved very
similarly to you in their evaluation of the situation in Iraq.

Moving into strict opinions, I believe your general mindset is
even more wrongheaded the Pierce's, and that is an accomplishment.

Adios,
Bob