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Re: [minor patch] Amend CoC


From: Liliana Marie Prikler
Subject: Re: [minor patch] Amend CoC
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2022 20:30:00 +0100
User-agent: Evolution 3.42.1

Hi Maxime,

Am Sonntag, dem 20.02.2022 um 19:45 +0100 schrieb Maxime Devos:
> Liliana Marie Prikler schreef op zo 20-02-2022 om 19:05 [+0100]:
> > > Note: The upstream Contributor Covenant wouldn't want to include
> > > it because the author seems to have a peculiar world-view where
> > > they don't acknowledge that humans actually have a sex.  I hope
> > > the Guix maintainers are more reasonable than that. :-)
> > Sorry, but tracking down the issue you submitted towards the
> > contributor covenant, it appears to me that you are the misguided
> > one.
> > The CoC already prohibits discrimination based on gender identity,
> > sexual identity and sexual orientation.  If you identify your
> > gender as your sex, whatever that might be, you are thereby already
> > protected.
> > 
> > The wording you chose (intentionally or otherwise) tries to
> > invalidate other people's gender identity and thus violates the
> > CoC.
> 
> Ignoring upstream's context and whether Taylan Kammer is misguided or
> not, listing sex among the list could be useful if a potential
> harasser H who understands the difference between sex and gender and
> knows that V has sex A not corresponding to gender B under current
> social convention, and H would harass V over their sex (but H is fine
> with V's gender).
> 
> To me, this seems a rather contrived scenario though ...
In this "contrived" scenario Harold would still (intentionally or
otherwise) be discriminating Victor·ia over their gender by publicly
pointing out the disconnect between the two.  In the daily experience
of trans people, such remarks typically serve to invalidate their
identities.



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